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Really enjoyed this piece - your writing is thoughtful and engaging, and you make compelling points about pragmatic approaches to socialism. I'll add one perspective from my own experience: as someone from ex-Yugoslavia, I think the choice to embrace socialism isn't always purely rational or pragmatic. For many, there's a deep nostalgia at work - a longing for the social solidarity and collective purpose we remember (or have heard about) from that era.

And beyond nostalgia, I think socialism also attracts people who desperately need hope. When you're watching inequality spiral and traditional politics fail to address fundamental problems, socialist ideals offer something that feels both morally necessary and practically possible, even if the path isn't always clear.

So while I agree that pragmatic socialists can be highly effective, I'd argue that the emotional and psychological dimensions - the nostalgia, the hope, the sense of moral urgency - are equally important in understanding why people choose this path. Sometimes it's not just about what works, but about what feels right and what gives meaning to the struggle.

Thanks for such a thought-provoking read and for shining some light on Erik Olin Wright.

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Hi Lennox,

In my comment on your last post, I said I was hoping for a synthesis. I think I got exactly that. I feel like you've saved me many years with these two posts (and I was not planning on going back to university). So thank you.

I was a bit scared when you alluded to a tragic ending to the story, but Wright's list of social institutions were pretty much what I expected. The path to a social society is a long list of boring little reforms and organizations.

As for Sir Galahad, I definitely agree to some extent that Camelot is not worthy of socialism. The idea of socialism appearing out of a special revolution or being installed onto human blank slates in education camps is a thoroughly dead idea. Socialism will be created by a culture of people that are willing and able to build the institutions. And perhaps that is another reason to add effective altruism to that list. EA is not just a mosquito net printing machine, but a big tent community that invites everyone to get involved in a social society instead of just standing on the sidelines.

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